Posts by Crisis of Conscience

in 1823, john aquila brown (a man who is not mentioned in any wt publication) came up with a bizarre mathematical calculation which totalled 2,520 years (in an unauthorized attempt to predict the end of the gentile times).... several religions recycled this bizarre calculation, including the adventists and the bible students... when armageddon didn't come on the variety of early 20th century dates predicted by several "dooms-day" religions of that time (including charles taze russell's bible students who predicted that the big a would start in 1914), they all finally realized that this 2,520-year calculation was nothing more than arbitrary mathematical speculation derived from erratic biblical extrapolation.... except for the bible students who continued to move up the date for armageddon 2 more times (1918, 1925) and then decided to use wwi as the starting point for the "last days".. all the while, one thing that seems to remain intact is the october 2, 1914 date.

oddly, for the watchtower bible & tract publishing cult, this particular date still marks the end of the 2,520-year period (that john aquila brown referred to in his bizarre 1823 book "the even tide")... again, no mention of this in any watchtower publication.

but, for jws, that date still remains the starting point for the period of time often referred to as the "last days" or even "the generation that shall not pass".. because of this, the governing body has been forced to change the definition of "the generation that shall not pass" countless times since the early 1970's.

Crisis of Conscience

I think this will be a good thread to keep alive. Kind of like the Armageddon hasn't arrived yet thread.

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Anyone here use a tablet computer

by maksym in

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just curious here who uses the new tablet computers, whether they be android based or ipad ios from apple.

does anyone here use a phone to post and what is your experience with that?.

i'm curious as to how much more time there will be before these devices are the main computers for people.

Crisis of Conscience

@ under the radar - No problem at all! Just doing my part.

CoC

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No Governing Body in Paul's day

by The Searcher in

the given understanding of the bible account at acts 15 regarding the circumcision issue is that a "governing body" resolved the issue.

is this assertion based on scriptural evidence?

while jesus walked the earth, some of his apostles were contentious with each other regarding who would be superior to the others.

Crisis of Conscience

Bookmarked

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Reality setting in for Jehovah's Witnesses?

by MrDarkKnight in

when my friends and family try to "reason" with me about my decision to leave, i immediatley begin to question the interpretation of the so-called prophecy in the bible, i am getting the following consistent response:.

"it does not matter if the end comes in my lifetime.

i know i am doing god's will.".

Crisis of Conscience

Saying God wants all to attain repentance (as taught by the JW's) is just circular reasoning for why the end is not here yet. It never has to come! Sinners are born everyday, and they have to repent too!

CoC

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Hello Jehovah's Witnesses. I was in class 119 of Gilead in 2005

by AllTimeJeff in

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my picture is in the january 1, 2006 watchtower.. why am i telling you this?

consider this my small weekend contribution to the cause of real truth.

any jw who has been one for a while, or a born in, knows the regard that pioneers, elders, bethelites and missionaries have.

Crisis of Conscience

LOL @ EntirelyPossible!! Evidently, we have the wrong impression!

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Anyone here use a tablet computer

by maksym in

jw
friends

just curious here who uses the new tablet computers, whether they be android based or ipad ios from apple.

does anyone here use a phone to post and what is your experience with that?.

i'm curious as to how much more time there will be before these devices are the main computers for people.

Crisis of Conscience

Hi maksym. I post from an iPhone quite regularly. And overall I think it meets my needs. It is much easier on a computer, but in my case, I do not always have the privacy needed.

For anyone not able to post from an iPhone/smartphone/iPad/tablet, I keep sharing the following thread because I think it can be of help.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/forum/tech-support/206152/1/Using-JWN-on-a-smartphone

CoC

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Hello Jehovah's Witnesses. I was in class 119 of Gilead in 2005

by AllTimeJeff in

jw
friends

my picture is in the january 1, 2006 watchtower.. why am i telling you this?

consider this my small weekend contribution to the cause of real truth.

any jw who has been one for a while, or a born in, knows the regard that pioneers, elders, bethelites and missionaries have.

Crisis of Conscience

AllTimeJeff - In the OP you said the following:

I have nothing to gain by saying this, it's simply the truth.

Hold on a minute here! You mean to tell me that since you left the JWs, you are not looking to gain followers to start your own religion?!

I thought that's what ALL apostates did! LOL!!!

ATJ, in all seriousness, thanks for your openess and honesty. I love reading your threads.

BUMP!! (For the lurkers)

CoC

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Those who still show up at the meetings, How do you manage?.

by Mr Facts in

for those who still show up at the meetings, how do you manage?.

do you still offer comments and how do you actually muster up the boldness to gave talks and still do all of those craps?..

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Crisis of Conscience

In answer to the OP, I do my best to miss as many meetings as I can. My wife has gotten more understanding of my feelings and so she doesn't get on my case.

For the time being, I grin and bare it because I haven't really had any "friends" reject or shun me. I'm still, amazingly enough, invited to their houses or out to some activity. Granted, a lot of them are not in the congregation I attend. So they are not aware that I no longer go out in service or comment, AT ALL. I give the occasional bible reading, but that's it. They don't even know that.

If and when things change in the future, I am not worried. I am currently making friends outside of the org.

Basically, I attend because I like to be with my wife. And the meeting is enough for now, since as I mentioned earlier, I no longer will do field service, and my wife knows that. But I can't say I enjoy attending. We'll see what the future brings. I think my wife expects to see me stop attending.

CoC